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November 04, 2011

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Betty Gordon

Good interview, Cindy. I feel for ...ummmm mature people dating now, but then there's always the possibility the right one will come along.

I never associated a first date with a first chapter, but you're right -- a lot of similarities.

Christy Tillery French

Interesting blog, Cindy. I like the analogy and agree, TMI can be bad for an early relationship; is very bad for a novel. I'm reading the 2nd in your series and really enjoying it.

Cindy Sample

Thanks Christy and Betty. I didn't really think of the parallels until I was asked to guest blog and then I was amazed at the similarities. What I can't decide is if I should share this post with any of my "first dates."

Glad you're enjoying DYING FOR A DANCE, Christy.

Camille Minichino

We can always count on you, Cindy, for a laugh and for insight into many worlds! Love the parallels you've made here! Maybe you need to write a handbook!

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Camille. I will admit it's crossed my mind to share a top ten list of what "not to do" on a first date. Although I have a feeling I would warrant a TMI citation myself.

Matthias

I wish you had shared this years ago. Excellent topic and kindly written (always). Thank you Cindy. M

Mysti

Maybe if we approached first dates (and first chapters) as if we were meeting a *friend* for the first time. Guys never bore other guys with long life history when they first meet, and women seem to instinctively know when to share what with new women friends (I know a few exceptions, but I like to think they prove the rule!).

I'm tackling my first chapter this weekend--your advice couldn't have been more timely, thanks!

Ellis Vidler

You did make me laugh. I'm not looking for a date (thank goodness! what a terrifying prospect), but I do meet people, sometimes at writers' gatherings. Too often they want to give you their entire life story before you have a chance to know them or care. It's like backstory in the opening scene. Excellent analogy, Cindy.

Cindy Sample

Thanks Matt, Mysti and Ellis. Glad you all enjoyed the analogy. It was fun and fascinating to explore. I could share even more details of those early encounters but that really would be TMI!

Congrats on tackling that first chapter, Mysti.

Lizjasper

Cindy, the only problem with writing a first chapter like a first date is what if you are an awkward first-dater? You'd have long, uncomfortable blank pages. Maybe some ink spatters on the type. Mismatched fonts. LOL

Great post! --Liz

Cindy Sample

Hi Liz. I have yet to meet anyone who has too little information to reveal. Although maybe it's my smiling and empathetic countenance that causes them to over share. And as a writer, sometimes TMI can turn into a future scene (but don't tell anyone I said that)!

Maddy

I am in the revision phase at the moment so that is quite a timely reminder for me. Far better to be scything out excess verbiage on a computer than having to meet face to face with a prospect.

Jacqueline Seewald

Cindy, I agree with you about not info dumping either in the beginning of a novel or on a first date.
In a mystery, info should be doled out a bit at a time. We need to keep the reader interested and turning those pages.

Best,

Jacqueline Seewald
THE TRUTH SLEUTH

Cindy Sample

I'm glad I could be of service in the scything out process. Can't wait to see the final version.

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Jacqueline. You are a master at keeping those mystery readers enticed.

Dana

Info dumps, whether in fiction or in real life, are rarely helpful... Love the post, Cindy!

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Dana, although there is a high probability I've been the dumper as often as I've been the dumpee!

Zoë Sharp

Hi Cindy
Great post. I usually liken a first chapter or meeting a character for the first time to having someone sit down next to you on a bus. If they start telling you intimate details of you life, you'd get off and walk at the next stop, but the more intrigued you are, the longer you stay along for the ride :)

Susan C Shea

Excellent analogy, Cindy, and you dance around it gracefully! I would not even think of doing the dating thing again. It sounds squirmy. I see banging my head slowly against the wall as entirely preferable. But knowing you, no matter how strange they are, these bad first dates will find a way into your next book in your distinctive, humorous, good-natured style.

Ann Parker

Great food for thought, Cindy! Thank goodness for revision opportunities to deal with first chapter TMI. Too bad one can't similarly revise a first date, once it's over!
;-)

Cindy Sample

Thanks Zoe. I like your analogy. I'm constantly amazed by the information strangers will share. Of course I just save it in my memory bank as a funny future scene.

And I always sit in an aisle seat!

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Susan and Ann. I must admit I get a big kick out of listening to the stories on my coffee dates. And if they are brave enough to go out with the author of DYING FOR A DATE they've already earned extra brownie points.

Margie Yee Webb

Hi Cindy, sounds like some of your dates have been open books... Thanks for your writing advice!

Cindy Sample

Very funny, Margie. I have a feeling I should start wearing a "Proceed with Caution" sign on my dates.

Jenny Milchman

TMI equals backstory. I love it!

I didn't even know there was a Poisons for Dummies!

Cindy Sample

Oh,Jenny. Every mystery author must have a copy of Poisons for Dummies in their library. There are a plethora of poisons to choose from. Quite fascinating!

T.W. Fendley

Loved the analogy! AND loved Dying for a Dance. Now I have to go back and get Dying for a Date (how did I miss that one!)

Linda Lovely

Cindy, sorry to be late to the party. What a terrific post! Funny and true--which is one of the secrets to the humor in your books. All of us mere mortals can imagine ourselves in the situations you describe even if we're not dating or dancing. Keep writing. Can't wait for book number 3!

Alyx Morgan

Nice post, Cindy. Yes, I've had my share of first dates that never had a repeat. I couldn't wait to get away from them because of the information dump. But I like how you linked that with a first chapter of a book, too. I need to remind myself that readers can get to know my characters throughout the book(s), & don't need to know everything in Chapter 1.

Jo Robertson

Interesting post, Cindy. I like the analogy between first chapters and first dates. Definitely some folks are inclined to give TMI!

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Theresa and Linda for the lovely comments. Life provides us with such rich experiences and so much great material for our books.

Cindy Sample

Hi Jo and Alyx. Thanks for the comments. I'm glad my post provided some helpful input and hopefully I didn't share TMI!

Sue Swift/Suz deMello

OMG Cindy, you are so right. I once had a lunch date with a guy who told me his whole life story, incuding the details about his late wife's final illness--apparently she lingered even longer than the date did! And this date seemed ENDLESS. It's a definite turn-off, just like info dumps in the first chapter.

Cindy Sample

Hmmm I wonder if Mr. TMI met both you and I?

Rebecca Dahlke

Thanks, Cindy, for posting this over at the All Mystery e-newsletter's yahoo group... we pay attention to our members blogs and, in this case, get to have a chuckle, too!

Cindy Sample

Thanks, Rebecca. I'm glad I was able to provide a giggle or two for you this weekend.

rita lakin

What's this! Out of the goodness of my heart (read laziness)I give up my precious time slot and this upstart takes over my place and gets 34 comments! Unheard of. Unimaginable! I, the queen of First Friday might get 5 comments or so if lucky.

Dare you unseat the Queen? Will you even get to read past 34 comments to catch a whiff of my ire?

This is war, Princess Cindy. I'm in the middle of reading your funny book now and for spite I might not laugh out loud anymore.

Hmmf, 34 comments. I am miffied I tell you, miffed. LOL

Rita

Cindy Sample

And here comes # 36. Long live Queen Rita. May she LOL forever!

rita lakin

Bless you, my child.

Rita

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